Barry,
An excellent editorial, a worthwhile read and a perceptive statement of not just the facts but a projection of the self inflicted wounds by the City Council Majority into the future. It also shows the weakness of overuse or abuse of ‘closed sessions’.
Ken Johnson
Steven Hyman,
I agree with your statement that it “will end up as a lasting memorial to incompetent government “! We disagree on who make up the members of that “incompetent government”!
The “previous administration”, as you refer to them, won their appeal of a bad initial court decision. The current City Council Majority blew their case and then threw in the towel provided by Mr. Keenan instead of pursuing a viable appeal - costing us $18,000,000 plus the cost of trying to push AB 1991 now into $2,000,000 range. The cost in returning Half Moon Bay to the status of Environmental Piranha and an embarrassment in the State is incalculable.
Ken Johnson
Leonard, Charlie Gardner squanders OPM - Other Peoples Money: Wavecrest New Middle School! Supports wrong headed agendas: AB 1991 and Foothill STREET. Remember PCF-CCF or whatever the laughing stock is called? If he is for it - it must be wrong!
Ken Johnson
Offical: “Withdrawn from committee[L.GOV.]. Re-referred to Com. on RLS.”
Joel Farbstein,
Thank you for making my point! At the Board meeting, I requested that they ‘table’ the item, rather than voting for or against support of AB 1991. It is obviously a ‘divisive’ item and that taking a position, as a School District, was not in the best interest of CUSD.
Only George Muteff and I spoke to the item from the public. Since you chose not to attend, maybe you could elaborate why you think it was in the School District’s best interest to vote to support AB 1991. It does appear counter intuitive to another point you would like the reader to believe.
Also, could you please specifically identify what you described so eloquently as “And their math is lousy, too” and show what you believe is a correct mathematical solution.
Ken Johnson
Fair question and point: ‘watched’ and ‘trusted’ News: BBC, Bloomberg, PBS
Ken
Fox? News?????
Steven Hyman,
I don’t hear a sell out of the environment as popular! I hear of recalling some of the City Council Majority. But I usually talk to intelligent people. But most important:
YOU wrote:
Seems to be a clear statement of YOUR opinion!
I, Barry, Jonathan, Scott Boyd, Francis Drouillard, and Jimmy Benjamin have all been waiting on YOU!
Ken Johnson
Poor Steven Hyman,
Have the ‘meds’ kicked in yet? Let them kick in. Now, seems there were 5 different people in a row who all questioned you on the same thing on the thread you would like to ignore.
YOU wrote:
Seems to be a clear statement of YOUR opinion!
I, Barry, Jonathan, Scott Boyd, Francis Drouillard, and Jimmy Benjamin have all been waiting on YOU!
Ken Johnson
Barry,
Thanks, that meets the “bright-line test”!
Ken
Barry,
A bit of ‘nit-picking’, I didn’t find, when I first read at the time of the release or when I re-read the City diatribe, the word “lying” or any derivative of that word. There are far better attorneys in the background to permit the use of any key words against a targeted individual - Sarah Christie - who is professional staff and not a public figure.
Ken Johnson
The History of Beachwood Game…
this does seem like a fun
She spent 16 years on the City Council between 1985 to 2001 AND
[I can’t forget the headline “Beachwood loses its development case in appelate court”
in August 2005! The City was aided by the California Coastal Commission ]
She rejoined the City Council in November 2005 to form a new voting majority that promptly quadrupled legal expenses with coincidentally no success in court.
Sounds like the description to Jackson Robertson’s question of “Who was on the City Council in 1991 - Didn’t they get HMB into this mess anyways?!?”
Ken Johnson
Kathryn Slater-Carter,
With the double-referral of AB 1991, I hope the Senate Rules Committee will then send it on to the Senate Committee On Natural Resources And Water where it should have gone in the Assembly.
Ken Johnson
Jackson Robertson,
Great question!
Let’s play: “the History of Beachwood Game”.
Who was on the City Council and voted for, in 1990, the City approved vesting tentative maps for 85 lots on the Beachwood property (25 acres) and 47 lots on the Glencree property (12 acres) AND she also voted not to proceed with an appeal of the Beachwood case this year?
Ken Johnson
Steven Hyman,
YOU are not getting out of this one! This is about YOU! This will continue to be about what YOU wrote! YOU need to validate!
Ken Johnson
Steven Hyman,
You seem to have forgotten to answer ALL the questions to you. You seem to have a short attention span problem - I’ll remind you.
Ken Johnson
Steven Hyman,
My deepest sympathy for your loss - of any credibility!
Jonathan Lundell not only pointed to your great weakness - never supporting your statements - but he stayed with the point until you had no option but to expose yourself.
Simply stated: your assertions have no there there!
Please call the ‘minders’ and tell them to send another one over to Coastsider; that you were caught in a “depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is” moment!
Ken Johnson
AB 1991 - SENATE: LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE. HEARING DATE: 18 June 2008. Room 112.
Just in case you are interested in writing a letter on AB 1991 and haven’t already done so.
I apologize for changing the topic.
BTW, Steve,
I guess there is something we agree on: as you wrote:
“The bottom line is that we don’t agree. And its likely we will never agree and that’s ok.”!
Ken Johnson
Steven Hyman,
You do a disservice to ‘your side’ by insulting the intelligence of the casual reader. By continually asserting opinion and never supporting it by fact, the reader must conclude that there is no validity to any of your statements. You assert, with seemingly a sense of pride, in not only your lack of knowledge of a subject but a sense of pride in your lack of desire to acquire a level of knowledge.
IMHO, Coastsider’s strength is that it offers any opportunity to discuss, in an intelligent manner, areas of public interest for which there is not universal agreement. You are squandering a valuable opportunity for ‘your side’ and by the weakness of your presentation making the case of your opponents!
Ken Johnson
Steven Hyman,
I’ll venture a solution to your query: “Its getting so hard knowing who to believe these days.”
Read the post thoroughly, analyze it, check the validity of the content, do the ‘homework’; then, please, don’t hit transmit!
Ken Johnson
Editorial: Senator Yee's SB863 gets it right, Aug 28 9:21pm comment by Kevin J. Lansing, Many thanks to Senator Yee. It is instructive to contrast Senator Yee's efforts to strike a compromise bill that addresses…
Editorial: Senator Yee's SB863 gets it right, Aug 28 2:25pm comment by Steven Hyman, Glad to hear that the appraisal issue was anticipated. Everybody would sure hate to have this blow up in our…
Editorial: Senator Yee's SB863 gets it right, Aug 28 1:49pm comment by Mike Ferreira, It might be wiser to read the bill before popping off. It's for "acguisition and associated park and trail development"…
Editorial: Senator Yee's SB863 gets it right, Aug 28 1:15pm comment by Steven Hyman, I too am glad that this long running nightmare may be coming to an end. Although, as you all know,…
Editorial: Senator Yee's SB863 gets it right, Aug 28 12:38pm comment by John Lynch, Barry You hit the nail squarely on its head. We need to call Senator Leland Yee, "Saint Leland of the…
Editorial: Senator Yee's SB863 gets it right, Aug 28 11:40am comment by ScottBoyd, Senator Yee's work shows what patience and persistence can lead to. He has taken a bad situation, complicated by Half…
Editorial: Senator Yee's SB863 gets it right, Aug 28 9:18am comment by Ric Lohman, Thanks Barry for the perfect summary of the situation. Senator Yee has saved the Half Moon Bay City Council in…
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