Aircraft over Montara

posted by John Andreas on Jun 25, 2008 at 12:00 pm in  Police & Fire
10 comments • Print Share on Mail, Facebook, Twitter…

John Andreas
Shot from John Andreas's home in Montara

Yesterday I sent the following email to Don Haug, the person in charge of air traffic emanating out of the San Carlos and Half Moon Bay airports. His phone number is 573-3700.

The HMB airport number is 573-3701. If you reach a live person there, it will most likely be either “Mike,” or DJ Cullins. When I called Mike yesterday, he told me that he didn’t need the plane identifying information because he could see them from the airport.

It took a bit of persuasion to get him to write down the numbers, but he eventually took them and said that he would write a report. I’m going over there today to see to what extent planes are visible when they’re flying low over Montara.

This issue bubbles to the surface now and then, so I know it’s a matter of concern for many of you. Please feel free to send your email address to me at PO Box 371295 if you’d like to contact me.

Hello Mr. Haug,

I spoke with you a number of weeks ago about pilots ignoring noise abatement rules when they fly small planes at low altitude over Montara. At that time, you said you would take action against a the pilot of Belair flight school plane N238542. I hope to hear from you what action was taken.

I don’t normally have time or inclination to take photographs of the planes as they go overhead, but now that I’m working from home—better said, trying to work in spite of the airplane noise— that’s no longer a problem. Since the planes prevent me from concentrating on my business, I’ve decided to take as many pictures as I can and identify the pilots who have been intelligent enough to make it through flight school, but somehow lack the ability to “be considerate to airport neighbors” and “avoid flying over homes whenever possible,” as is stated in the Half Moon Bay Airport noise abatement guidelines.

For instance, this past Saturday (6/21/08) between the hours of 11:12:59 and 12:23:24, I captured 29 images of planes flying low over this community. That’s 29 fly-overs in the space of approximately 70 minutes, or one noise abatement violation about every 2.4 minutes.

Today, Tuesday the 24th of June, I shot pictures between 14:23:48 and 14:38:18. In these 14+ minutes, I captured images of two planes making a combined total of 7 flights low overhead. That’s once about every 2 minutes. Here is a chart showing the time, the aircraft, and the corresponding image. The rest of the images were taken to show the aircraft approaching, turning and leaving the area. Long shots with structures and foliage, plus shots that capture fuselage numbers show how low and close these pilots are maneuvering. The camera used is a Canon EOS 20D with a 70-200 mm lens.

TIME       AIRCRAFT IMAGE NUMBER
——    ——————————             
14:23:48   N2395V   2616
14:27:00   N67169   2623
14:28:24   N2395V   2624
14:31:56   N67169   2630
14:33:12   N2395V   2637
14:37:10   N67169   2644
14:38:18   N2395V   2652

That certainly doesn’t provide a full record of today’s flights (they began before and after I took out my camera. However, it is the beginning of what will be a very comprehensive look at which planes, from which companies, with which pilots at the controls, are turning a quiet coastside village into a headache for its residents.

I know that this issue has come up on numerous occasions over the years, but to my knowledge the actions of the pilots has not changed. I suspect that residents who have tried to restore order have simply despaired and quit trying to effect change. I don’t despair about anything except the aircraft noise that distracts me from my work, and that keeps me from being able to enjoy my moments of rest.

I hope that you and I, and perhaps the FAA and certain individuals in Congress will be able to change the harassing and abusive behavior of those pilots who don’t have consideration for the people of our local communities. If they don’t stop their activities, I hope they will see their pilot licenses revoked.

But perhaps one of the first places to start is with a change to the HMB noise abatement map which does not show Montara as a noise sensitive area. How can this be accomplished?

Sincerely,

Hans Andreas
Montara, CA
650-728-9518

Comments

Comment 1 by Deborah Lardie  on  Jun 25  at  3:01pm  •  All my comments • 

Until recently Montara was not even designated as a noise “sensative” area on the map the airport distributes to pilots.  This has been changed due to the efforts of a couple of residents who feel that the airport administration is not enforcing the noise abatement proceedures.  The Midcoast Community Council will be addressing this issue at a forum in the near future.  I will be contacting you offline to discuss this in more depth. 

Comment 2 by John Andreas  on  Jun 25  at  4:01pm  •  All my comments • 

The map still does not show Montara as a noise sensitive area, as I indicated in the last sentence of the email.

Comment 3 by Brian Dantes  on  Jun 26  at  1:24am  •  All my comments • 

Is said map available on line somewhere? I live in the El Granada Highlands, and the noise from those airplanes is frequent and annoying.

Brian Dantes
El Granada

Comment 4 by John Andreas  on  Jun 26  at  7:40am  •  All my comments • 

Here’s the link to the noise abatement procedures for the Half Moon Bay airport, including the map. Click on the map to enlarge it. By the way, one person calling will not get this issue resolved. The more people who call to voice their concerns, the more the individuals in charge will be forced to listen. If Mr. Skegas is reading this, please update us on your efforts. Thanks.

http://www.co.sanmateo.ca.us/smc/department/dpw/home/0,,5562541_5562593_146636942,00.html

Comment 5 by Brian Dantes  on  Jun 26  at  7:58am  •  All my comments • 

Thanks for the link (although I had to cut and paste it—the direct link from this page fails). I notice that the referenced noise abatement procedures are “voluntary.” Why is that? I certainly see few planes observing any of those procedures. We’re outside any of the “extremely noise sensitive areas” (as is Montara)—but sometimes it feels like these aircraft are going to land on our roof. I don’t need a telephoto lens to read their markings. The other day a BIG multi-rotor helicopter passed over that set off sonic vibrations that actually rattled the dishes in our cabinets. It was that close.

But I have to say that I believe the reason for apathy is that given the huge number of violations and disregard by these pilots, it’s clear there are no teeth to the “guidelines” and no one is policing them.

Brian Dantes
El Granada

Comment 6 by Deborah Lardie  on  Jun 26  at  9:38am  •  All my comments • 

Regarding my comment on changes to the map- airport management (Don) said, a couple of weeks ago, that they would change the map the next time they produced copies of it.  In retrospect I think they should change it immediately.  They also said they would change it on the website.  I intend to follow up with him on this.

Comment 7 by Susan Webb  on  Jun 26  at  10:37am  •  All my comments • 

John, how grateful we are to see that others are finally taking action to stop these illegal flyers.

If you look up on the TownHall, comments were starting last April, and complaints have been made for literally “YEARS”.  Of course they weren’t documented.

These planes are so “out of touch” that I swear I thought at times they were going to land on our roof!!  Of course our livestock is being scared to death.

Just hope you don’t get an e-mail like I did telling me “Why don’t you just DIE, and leave these planes alone”!!  Well that’s when we decided that a lawsuit should be pursued.

There are others involved in this, so someone will be phoning you soon.  And “YES” licences will be taken away.

Thanks for joining our group!

Comment 8 by Brian Dantes  on  Jun 26  at  10:41am  •  All my comments • 

Susan,

I agree with your comments—but can you point me to a source that backs up what these pilots are doing is illegal? I agree that it should be—but from what I’ve seen so far it looks like the noise abatement guidelines are just that—and voluntary.

Brian Dantes
El Granada

Comment 9 by Barry Parr  on  Jun 26  at  12:39pm  •  All my comments • 

I fixed url in John’s post.  Thanks to Brian for figuring out the problem.

Comment 10 by John Andreas  on  Jun 26  at  1:20pm  •  All my comments • 

Thanks for the fix, Barry and Brian.

Whether or not the abatement guidelines are voluntary is only one way to look at the issue. If I park my car in front of your house and let the boom box blare from morning to night, you’d probably call the police. Such behavior would fall into the category of creating a public nuisance, which is what the pilots are doing with their actions. The police or county sheriff would get the noise to stop, whether or not it’s illegal to pump up the speakers.

Having worked in Half Moon Bay for almost 20 years, I know that it’s pretty rare to see anyone fly so low and so often. Pilots seem to especially avoid the skies over Main Street.
I’m sure they realize that the business community would be in an uproar if customers started conintually asking and complaining about aircraft noise.
 
Would the Chamber of Commerce be able to fix the problem? I bet they would. In our unincorporated communities, we can only resolve the problem by being calm, but persistent with our calls and letters to the pilots’ overseers.

If you’d like to know who owns the planes, here’s where you can find out on the FAA website:

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.asp

 

Add a comment

Please Register and Log in to post a comment.

Click here to post your own letter to Coastsider.

Family Service Welcomes Volunteers to Senior Peer Counselor Training Sessions

Letter by Kathy Chouteau on Wed, Mar 17 at 12:31 pm • 0 comments; click to add your own

Family Service Agency of San Mateo County’s Senior Peer Counseling Program welcomes anyone in the community interested in becoming a volunteer senior peer counselor to register in advance for two training sessions. Held at the nonprofit’s headquarters at 24 Second Avenue in San Mateo, the training will prepare new volunteers to provide free one-on-one and group peer counseling to older adults and will cover the basics of counseling, social and family relationships, self-awareness,

Read more...

Princeton Seafood Co. on board with “Hats Off to Teachers”

Letter by Princeton Seafood Company on Fri, Mar 12 at 04:14 pm • 1 comments; click to add your own

Campaign Offers Educators Hearty Discount

Where would we be without our teachers? They’ve given us the fundamentals – the foundation we need to succeed in today’s society. And now, Princeton Seafood is giving something back. With JointVenture’s “Hats off to Teachers” campaign, the restaurant is offering all teachers 10 percent off any meal daily and a full 20 percent off on our special “Teacher Tuesday.”

To receive a discount, teachers must present the restaurant staff with

Read more...

Sam’s Chowder House Hosts Fundraiser Supporting the Big Wave Project

Letter by David Vespremi on Fri, Mar 12 at 11:25 am • 2 comments; click to add your own

Have a comment?

Twitter @samschowder
 
Mail:

4210 North Cabrillo Highway
Half Moon Bay
CA
94019

Telephone: 650.712.0245
Fax: 650.712.0371

Read more...

Free educational events at New Leaf Community Markets

Letter by Patti_Bond on Thu, Mar 11 at 10:13 am • 0 comments; click to add your own

On Tuesday, March 16 from 6 - 7 pm, New Leaf Produce Director, Mark Mulcahy, will present ” For the Love of Produce: Citrus.” Mark will talk about the difference between various types of citrus, where they come from, how to select them and prepare them, as well as provide suggested pairings and recipes.

On Tuesday, March 23 from 6 - 7:30 pm., Larry Jacobs of Jacobs Farm/Del Cabo and his team will give a talk on Organic Farming in Mexico. They will tell their story about the cooperative they

Read more...

Earlier letters

...Looking for something even earlier? Try our letter archives.
Get Coastside alerts from Fire Dispatch on Coastsider's Twitter feed...