Comments by terry gossett
April 21, 2008
Mr Ferreira,
If you are so certain that the plaintiff only expected $10.5M, why was the city estimate of damages (equivalent number to the $36.795 from Gimmy for Yamagiwa, page 102 of the Yamagiwa decision) $26.6M?
I you, and others, know so many "facts", and assert them continuously, it would be helpful to this forum to provide the basis for your assertions.
Then we could move to a constructive solution for the community. That is what we are all seeking, right?
April 17, 2008
Steve,
What I am seeking, as are you, is solutions for the citizens of HMB, all the while noting a few lessons learned along the way.
I agree with you, on the daunting task ahead of us, But if concerned citizens on the coastside pull together , we can do it.
Imagine the Cunha fire, yet less than 365 days later the store was rebuilt from ashes---in the coastal zone. If a City, even with a LCP, wants to do something important, it can be done.
April 17, 2008
Francis, Our messages are passing like two ships passing in the dark. Do not despair. We can do this. Keep trying. I support the Coastal Act. I have been at hundreds of meetings, over 80 on just Local Coastal Programs for HMB and Midcoast. If we all want laws that work, the laws must not be vague, capricious, or apply to some and not others. Laws cannot be cherry picked by people lacking morals or ethics...Or people will be outraged. I suggest we start with a very simple issue. The definition of…
April 17, 2008
Francis, I urge you to carefully read the Yamagiwa decision, and the Beachwood settlement agreement, and after having done so, ask you to re-visit your statement that "takings are rarely the case". I believe that a combination of private and government stewardship of land has opportunities for us all. This can be a Win- Win Outcome for us all, IF we choose to make that happen... Or it could be a fight to the death...with Appeals to Eternity.. It need not be Government ownership of land or Else...It…
April 17, 2008
Mr Ferreira, I am not proposing to go backward in time to snapshots that you choose, and defend interpretations of past lawsuits which you assert. I do not wish to go to the original lawsuit, or the Appellate Court, or to possible “reasons†the California Supreme Court “refused to hear†the case. This is not a public meeting and the choice of venue is not yours. I choose to make direct quotes from the most recent, relevant determinations in a court of law, and that would be…
April 17, 2008
Barry, Before dismissing the definition of “wetlands as a waste of time†and leaping to the issue of whether AB1991 should become law, consider this. Any further appeal is dead. We can all help craft a suitable AB1991, and support AB1991 or HMB will owe $18M. Then, hopefully HMB will find ways to pay for it, and then own Beachwood for all time. Is that what this is all about? Another opportunity for a park? What of the cost to the citizens of HMB, which you and I are not. I am doing this…
April 17, 2008
Jonathon, In no way am I trying to say that any law is unconstitutional. Carefully re-read what I said. Honor all law equally. Don't cherry pick them. All laws should be obeyed within some context. When elected officials take office they swear to uphold and support the State and US Constitutions. So I submit our laws are in the framework of the State and US Constitution and should not conflict. I went back to the Yamagiwa decision for an example of just what I am saying. On page 65 it states that…
April 17, 2008
OK, here is what I believe. We are a nation that is governed by laws. No one can, or should, be allowed to cherry pick laws, you have to take the whole package, whether you are an individual, an NGO, or the Government in its many varied forms. In the case of Beachwood, the definition of wetlands in the HMB LCP was cherry picked, most probably at the behest of the Coastal Commission, but with participation by prior City Councils. See http://talkabout.hmbreview.com/topic.php?t=1784&c=5&d;= Now, with…
December 22, 2007
Hi Barry, I welcome your questions. Communication, as you well know, is essential to resolving long standing problems that we continually face living on our coastside. That desire to communicate and educate is probably part of why you started Coastsider. Please note that CCF is a state recognized and chartered non-profit educational corporation, with a state approved mandate and mission to educate, and to serve our community. I am not sure of the status or recognition of Coastsider.com with the state.…
December 21, 2007
Gentlemen, CCF is simply trying to offer options and present them to the community and leaders of the city for their consideration in dealing with this Beachwood crisis. I was hoping for, and asking for, more ideas and options from this discussion group. Mr Lansing, I have not seen you at the recent city meetings, but I trust that you have read the judgment by Judge Walker. The Judge heard considerable expert testimony on wetlands and compared existing definitions from the Corps of Engineers, the…
December 20, 2007
Hey Barry, Nor are you. (Is that a word? capitulationist?, no time to look it up, time is ticking along rapidly) Any way. I am involved with Coastside Community First as a director, and we placed an ad in the HMB Review this week, with some actions that we hope the HMB Council will consider. I will paste those ideas in here. ALL ON THE SAME PAGE: SUMMARY OF PROPOSED HMB ACTION PLAN 1. Interpret and Apply the City’s Wetlands Definition Exactly as it Reads. If the City established a policy to…
December 20, 2007
Darin Boville started a topic about the appeal on Talkabout see http://talkabout.hmbreview.com/topic.php?c=1&d;=&o;=&t=1073#comment_form
I am very interested in getting the maximum input from coastsiders regarding the development of options for Half Moon Bay and its citizens.
Time is of the essence, and resources are being depleted as we chat. If you have constructive ideas, it could help us all.
terry gossett
moss beach
November 09, 2007
Ken, I agree "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar", my question had to do with ---- "what is a "cigar" doing here, during elections" when the ball game is not over ala boston celtics "why a "cigar" in a no smoking zone?" "what is relevance of "cigar" to Mr Larimer's achievements or issues in his campaign" "why is a candidate for mcc, and an elected official of gsd posting disparaging "cigars" about a candidate in another service district" Leonard, Hope your trip was eventful. I saw your intro, but…
November 04, 2007
Leonard,
and the relevance of this poem to.....? is what?
If you wish to share archived information, but will only cite relevant information, I am at your disposal, so to speak.
Knowing you are with the GSD, I do not use the term disposal lightly.
terry gossett
November 04, 2007
Barry,
I am not a member of Put Community First (PCF), but I follow their efforts to help the community, and am familiar with their bylaws and mission.
This whole topic and comments on coastsider are a bit of a distortion--
Barry, can you show me where PCF states "Put Community First is a PAC representing development, property rights, and growth interests" or did you just make that up?
If not, I would hope that you retract same.
terry gossett
November 04, 2007
Barry I have been door to door in Montara today so missed a few posts, but when I read your comment... "That’s one problem with anonymity. You’ll never know who’s succumbed to the temptation to give themselves a pat on the back from anonymous admirer or two. " I died laughing. Why?, Because no one has ever given me a pat on the back on Talkabout or on Coastsider to my knowledge. But I am accused of being Tawdry Glamour, and anonymous postings, and I never met her/him, and don't think her/him…
November 03, 2007
Barry,
You and I agree. You don't know how to help me.
terry
November 03, 2007
Ken Have you already changed your clock? Your post says 930pm. My clock is 838pm on 3 Nov 07. No wonder we have problems on communicating, we can't even agree on the time of day. It is dark and night out here, how about you? Ok, enough attempts at levity. Ken, if we just agree on a coupla things, we could communicate, like what dictionary to use, and how to enable weary and/or intimidated souls to participate in a sometimes caustic community, and how to be more civil. Can you tell me when you think…
November 03, 2007
Barry, Thanks for providing an answer to my question. Answers are very hard to come by on our coast. Point 1—Responsibility-- What does “take responsibility for anonymously sourced material” mean?, If you take responsibility, does that mean you are liable in a court of law? Or like in this post, “Let’s get one thing straight from the get-go. Scott Boyd and Kathryn Slater-Carter are friends of mine.” So, does that disclaimer then allow you to “rant”? Commingling facts, biases, and…
November 03, 2007
Barry You stated the following in your comment to your story “Coastsider endorses Boyd, Slater-Carter for MWSD” “An old friend of ours has posted a response to this endorsement over at TalkAbout. I’d reply to him there, but I’ve seen what the anonymous trolls over at TalkAbout do to people who try to reason with them. “ What I do not understand is how you have such disdain for “anonymous trolls over at Talkabout” yet you embrace what I have referred to as “anonymous canaries”…
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